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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:56 pm

Haha. Nice info about dun sa name. Usually nahihirapan rin akong mag-isip ng mga pangalan para sa mga characters. Natawa ako dun ah! Great shot!
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:57 pm

oh no the attack of the airy names haha! Jhoy, Bhoy, Jhun, jhuude, Gherald.

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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:05 pm

Actually sa tingin ko yung mga observation ni nicolas pwede i-apply sa description nga ng character mo. Kapag kunwari maraming H kahit na may H sound na (Von, Joy, etc.) may dating yan na maiisip mo kaagad na itsura ng character. Kahit turn-off siya, posible na yun ang gusto mo actually marating sa kuwento mo. Kunwri gusto mo talagang mag-mukang katurnoff turnoff yung tao; edi bigyan mo ng pangalang ganun.
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:09 pm

salamat Nicolas Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:31 pm

padagdag din ako:

CATCHY VS. OA VS. CONSISTENCY

Lahat ng mga writers authors pinag-iisipan ang hero's and heroine's name para makakaakit sa mga readers. May mga tunog mayaman na pangalan (Dawn, Cameron, Drew), mahirap (Dominador, Agustin, Joy) at unique (Warrior, Solace, Revenge).
Syempre nasa mentality na ng mga Pilipino na pag tagalog mahirap diba? Pinanganak kang mahirap kaya bibigyan ka ng pangalan ng author na Ligaya- simple at akma sa antas pero medyo maarte ang character papalitan nya ng Joy or Jhoy-understandble kase ganun nagja-jive sila ng character nya.

Pag mayaman naman syempre english yan bibigyan ng Lee kahit maarte pa ang character nya di nya papalitan ng Leigh (pareho sila ng pronounciation).

Unique names, matalino author (Arielle) kaya di ko na idi-discuss Very Happy Very Happy.

sa OA na tayo hehe lol! lol!
**medyo mahirap mga magulang papangalanan nila ang bida ng Dhon (Dawn, lol)- seems funny, understandable yan pero pag FHILHIPHINHA aba OA na yan pag puro ganito pangalan ng heroine mo sa buong series (Jhunnica, Jemmaikha, Jheniffher, Jhennilyn).
**pag mayaman ang lalake, macho tsaka gwapo at pangalan nya Leigh, Philippe Jacobbs, Alesandrace turnoff na kagad.
**mga pangalan tulad ng Vong, Zang, Joy sana wag ng lagyan ng H kase they already have an "H" sound, redundant na pag maglagay ka uli.

sana ang paggamit H, C or S to Z, P to F, B to V gamitin sa tama kase pag writer ka un ung pinakaayaw mong mga maging feedback ang too much chessiness.

IMHO:lol: Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:00 am

Nicolas123 wrote:
basahin mo rin po ang Kristine 54, pareho sila ng plot at story ng Impostor. asawa ng lalake nangaliwa tapos naaksidente ung heroine tapos may plastic surgery at naging asawa ni hero at may love scene, virgin ang babae lol

Haha. Babasahin ko yan sa susunod, do I have to read the series chronologically? Parang ang haba na kasi at gusto ko ring masubaybayan. While trying to fix my books last week, may nabasa rin akong related sa plastic surgery sa Club 56 ni Arielle at di ko na lang inalam pa. Haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:07 am

Goodluck Alejandro!
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:38 am

salamat sa inyong mga ibinahaging ideya... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:01 pm

ay ay ang galing naman..parang may natutuhan ako dito..wahaha!

@hellionist
ganda ng explanation mo..ikaw na! may napulot ako..hehe!

@Alejandro
meron na rin akong nabasa na sinulat nung favorite writer ko.. pangit yung heroine..hindi ganun kapangit, hindi rin maganda..basta yung tipong yung hitsura, eh wala lang, hindi mo tatapunan ng pangalawang tingin, ika nga.. pero dahil maganda ang pagkakasulat nakalimutan ko na pangit pala ang babae..

minsan nasa nagbabasa pa rin yun..kaya GO! kaya mo yan! isulat mo na yan!

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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:59 pm

kwesifriends wrote:
Not good looking? So far wala pa akong nababasang merong not good looking hero or heroine but if want to count Devin sa Impostor by Martha Cecilia. Haha. Unfortunately, she undergo plastic surgery. Haha.

basahin mo rin po ang Kristine 54, pareho sila ng plot at story ng Impostor. asawa ng lalake nangaliwa tapos naaksidente ung heroine tapos may plastic surgery at naging asawa ni hero at may love scene, virgin ang babae lol
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:12 pm

@hellionist

thank you, thorough explanation.
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:39 pm

Not good looking? So far wala pa akong nababasang merong not good looking hero or heroine but if want to count Devin sa Impostor by Martha Cecilia. Haha. Unfortunately, she undergo plastic surgery. Haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:22 am

hellionist wrote:
@vintageromantic
Makiki-epal lang. Agree ako kay Nicolas. Dapat in character yung character mo. Kung mahirap siya, pati yung point of view (narration, thoughts ng heroine, hero) niya dapat ay inire-reflect yung personality niya (mahirap, mayaman, salitang kalye, salitang sosyal, maarte, mahinhin). Sa tingin ko, isa yan sa pinaka-tricky part ng pagsusulat.
Minsan sa description pa lang ng character, may expectation na ang readers. Mabilis masundan ang story dahil magtutugma ang isinusulat ng writer sa expectations ng reader. Mas magiging kapani-paniwala na itong character na ito ay ganito base sa description niya at sa setting at turn of events.

Regarding the inconsistency, siguro, karamihan sa writers ay nadadala lang sa pag-i-Ingles dahil maraming English adjectives na mas accurate magde-describe noong character. I sometimes leave the English parts to character descriptions and dialogues (pero in character pa rin, siyempre). Depende na lang kung medyo nasa uneducated/low class/mahirap/probisiyana category yung magde-describe (halimbawa, kapag nakita ng heroine si hero, ide-describe niya sa isip niya, pero dapat in character pa rin. kung paano siya makipag-usap sa ibang tao, ganon din dapat kung paano siya mag-isip. in this case, kung hindi siya karangyaan, Tagalog ang posible niyang gamiting pang-describe sa character).

Continuous learning pa rin ang pagiging isang writer at mahalaga na magiging interesting ang mga character niya. At consistent siyempre. Wink




Yun o na tumbok mo ang ibig kong sabihin...nd ko kasi maexplain...hirap ng hindi writer...basta ako taga basa na lng at taga obserb na may kasamang unting okray... tongue tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:20 pm

@vintageromantic
You're welcome. Wink

Sa tingin ko rin kung bakit umuubra yung not so good looking heroes ay dahil una silang kinilala at minahal ng mga nagsulat sa kanila. Writing has life and at least one living being would be able to recognize and feel the life spark that the writer shared with its character. It will ooze out no matter what you do and move you to love the hero, too.
Yun ang talent ng mga sikat na writers.

Ume-echos lang ulit. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:56 pm

@hellionist: Ay nako, wag mong sabihing umepal ka! Very helpful yang sinabi mo. I'll keep it in mind, definitely. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:37 pm

@vintageromantic
Makiki-epal lang. Agree ako kay Nicolas. Dapat in character yung character mo. Kung mahirap siya, pati yung point of view (narration, thoughts ng heroine, hero) niya dapat ay inire-reflect yung personality niya (mahirap, mayaman, salitang kalye, salitang sosyal, maarte, mahinhin). Sa tingin ko, isa yan sa pinaka-tricky part ng pagsusulat.
Minsan sa description pa lang ng character, may expectation na ang readers. Mabilis masundan ang story dahil magtutugma ang isinusulat ng writer sa expectations ng reader. Mas magiging kapani-paniwala na itong character na ito ay ganito base sa description niya at sa setting at turn of events.

Regarding the inconsistency, siguro, karamihan sa writers ay nadadala lang sa pag-i-Ingles dahil maraming English adjectives na mas accurate magde-describe noong character. I sometimes leave the English parts to character descriptions and dialogues (pero in character pa rin, siyempre). Depende na lang kung medyo nasa uneducated/low class/mahirap/probisiyana category yung magde-describe (halimbawa, kapag nakita ng heroine si hero, ide-describe niya sa isip niya, pero dapat in character pa rin. kung paano siya makipag-usap sa ibang tao, ganon din dapat kung paano siya mag-isip. in this case, kung hindi siya karangyaan, Tagalog ang posible niyang gamiting pang-describe sa character).

Continuous learning pa rin ang pagiging isang writer at mahalaga na magiging interesting ang mga character niya. At consistent siyempre. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:09 am

Nicolas123 wrote:

hahahaha, tama ka. walng consistency!

Nicolas, pa explain naman po oh. Nagiipon kasi ako ng tips para rin matulungan ako sa pagsusulat, and since novice writer ako, baka matulungan ako ng observations niyo. Alin po yung hindi consistent, and may tips ba kayo para hindi "cardboard" ang dating ng mga characters?
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:08 pm

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Nicolas123 wrote:
pero kung paulit ulit naman kase na ganun ung pag describe sa hero/heroine esp MC's work uli, talagang nakakasawa. kumbaga sa ulam adobo in your 24 years of existence adobo lang ulam, sa umpisa masarap hanggang sampu pwede pa, pero pg ulit ulit, wala. STAGNANT, DULL, BORING!




agree.....magaling gumawa nang character si vanessa...makikita mo sa books nya kung paano mainlove ang mga ordinaryong tao...mga katulong na mangagantso...mga babaeng bakla....pag ginawa nya ang isang character na mahirap as in pag dukha ka makakarelate ka kasi ultimo sardinas na hinaluan ng miswa, sa mga hiphopers na malalapad ang pantalon hanggang sa mga jologs na jejemon alam nya....kagaya sa duon sa isa nyang character sa Lumang piso series yung character na babae tuwang tuwa doon sa bedsheets at comforter na nakita nya kasi hindi nya maranasan magkaroon nang ganun kagagarang gamit ....pag mayamn nman ang character sobrang parang maiintimidate ka sa mga characters nila....basta yun!...same as miss rose tans books....sa iba kasi n nbasa ko nawawalan ako ng gana kasi mahirap yung heroine nag eenglish pati yung sinasabi ng isip nya english din hehehe...obserbasyon ko lang....




hahahaha, tama ka. walng consistency!
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:18 pm

@Piandra anong ibig mong sabihin dito:
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same as miss rose tans books....sa iba kasi n nbasa ko nawawalan ako ng gana kasi mahirap yung heroine nag eenglish pati yung sinasabi ng isip nya english din hehehe...obserbasyon ko lang....

pero oo, helpful ang observations mo lalo na sa pagkakagawa ni vanessa ng characters na karerelate-an mo talaga
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:22 am

Nicolas123 wrote:
pero kung paulit ulit naman kase na ganun ung pag describe sa hero/heroine esp MC's work uli, talagang nakakasawa. kumbaga sa ulam adobo in your 24 years of existence adobo lang ulam, sa umpisa masarap hanggang sampu pwede pa, pero pg ulit ulit, wala. STAGNANT, DULL, BORING!




agree.....magaling gumawa nang character si vanessa...makikita mo sa books nya kung paano mainlove ang mga ordinaryong tao...mga katulong na mangagantso...mga babaeng bakla....pag ginawa nya ang isang character na mahirap as in pag dukha ka makakarelate ka kasi ultimo sardinas na hinaluan ng miswa, sa mga hiphopers na malalapad ang pantalon hanggang sa mga jologs na jejemon alam nya....kagaya sa duon sa isa nyang character sa Lumang piso series yung character na babae tuwang tuwa doon sa bedsheets at comforter na nakita nya kasi hindi nya maranasan magkaroon nang ganun kagagarang gamit ....pag mayamn nman ang character sobrang parang maiintimidate ka sa mga characters nila....basta yun!...same as miss rose tans books....sa iba kasi n nbasa ko nawawalan ako ng gana kasi mahirap yung heroine nag eenglish pati yung sinasabi ng isip nya english din hehehe...obserbasyon ko lang....
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:34 pm

ganun ba?
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:13 am

hindi lang pala character ang paulit ulit, pati din plot.
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:12 am

pero kung paulit ulit naman kase na ganun ung pag describe sa hero/heroine esp MC's work uli, talagang nakakasawa. kumbaga sa ulam adobo in your 24 years of existence adobo lang ulam, sa umpisa masarap hanggang sampu pwede pa, pero pg ulit ulit, wala. STAGNANT, DULL, BORING!
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:16 pm

Sa tingin ko naman ay pwede yan. As long as more than enough ang compensation sa ibang bagay. Eh kung sobrang bait, mayaman, matalino, atbp., I'm sure okey na okey pa rin! What counts is kung pano mapapalabas ng author ang gold inside that character kahit hindi siya physically perfect. Meron akong character na ganyan. Hopefully maisulat ko siya ng mabuti...
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PostSubject: Re: Not good looking Hero/Heroine   Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:35 pm

sige hahanapin ko mamaya 'yan Sky
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